At Deloitte Belgium, recruitment is not a downstream service—it’s a strategic capability. In conversation with Avature Founder and CEO Dimitri Boylan, Marteen Verleyen explains how talent acquisition has evolved into a trusted advisory function, closely aligned with business priorities. The discussion explores how technology, data and continuous dialogue enable recruiting to operate as a strategic advisor in a fast-moving, skills-driven market.

5 key takeaways from Deloitte Belgium’s HR innovator on recruiting as a strategic advisor

• Recruiting as a strategic advisor depends on deep alignment with business needs, not transactional hiring requests.
• Feedback-driven insights and hiring manager enablement underpin continuous improvement across stakeholder experiences.
• Market insight empowers recruiters to challenge assumptions, shaping hiring plans that reflect reality rather than wish lists.
• Data and CRM capabilities support long-term talent relationships, even when immediate demand shifts.
• A measured approach to AI strengthens trust, balancing innovation with responsibility and data privacy.

From Order-Taker to Trusted Advisor

For Verleyen, the defining shift at Deloitte Belgium has been moving recruiters out of an operational mindset and into a consultative role. Rather than simply executing requisitions, recruiters actively advise the business on what’s feasible in the market: whether certain profiles exist, how long hiring might realistically take and when alternative skill sets could better serve the underlying need. This is recruiting as a strategic advisor in practice: grounded in market intelligence, shaped by data and delivered through ongoing conversation.

That advisory role is reinforced through experience design. Candidate feedback loops, hiring manager training and continuous process optimization ensure recruiting remains credible and responsive. Importantly, alignment doesn’t stop at hiring. Verleyen emphasizes that talent management, rewards and development must reinforce the same story recruiters tell candidates. Consistency across the talent journey builds trust—both externally and internally—and strengthens recruiting’s voice at the strategic table.

Looking ahead, Deloitte Belgium’s recruiters are increasingly equipped with data from internal systems, external market insights and CRM-driven talent pools. This allows them to anticipate needs, resurface relevant talent and adapt as business priorities change. In a consultancy where strategy evolves quickly, recruiting’s ability to stay aligned and advise rather than react has become a competitive advantage.

We don’t consider our recruiters to be just operational recruiters. They’re really trusted advisers to our business.”

Marteen Verleyen
Systems and Analytics Manager, Deloitte Belgium

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As technology becomes inseparable from how organizations attract, manage and develop talent, the relationship between IT and the business has never mattered more. In conversation with Avature Founder and CEO Dimitri Boylan, Lori Woodcock reflects on her 23-year journey at McCann Worldgroup and the evolving role of talent technology. Together, they explore how trust, shared language and foundational data can turn complexity into coherence.

5 key takeaways from McCann Worldgroup’s HR innovator

• True digital progress happens when business and IT speak a shared language, grounded in mutual understanding.
• People data is the connective tissue across systems, enabling insights that individual tools can’t deliver alone.
• Starting with strong foundational data enables long-term flexibility, even in best-in-class technology ecosystems.
• Interoperability matters as much as innovation, especially when delivering consistent employee experiences.
• Change management succeeds when leaders lead with empathy, addressing fear before process.

Designing Connection Before Complexity

Woodcock’s career places her squarely between technology and the business, a position she describes not as a compromise but as a vantage point. By building relationships across data, infrastructure and HR teams, she has learned to surface shared goals that might otherwise remain hidden. At McCann, those goals often come back to people data—how it flows, how it’s understood and how it creates value when systems are designed to speak the same underlying language.

That philosophy shaped McCann’s talent technology journey from the start. With no legacy HR systems to untangle, Woodcock and her team focused on building an ecosystem that could evolve with the organization. Rather than optimizing for short-term fixes, they prioritized architecture that supports analytics, insight and adaptability over time. The result is a technology environment where tools can change, but the experience remains coherent—nearly invisible to candidates and employees navigating their careers.

Just as critical is how change is introduced. Woodcock emphasizes listening first, recognizing that resistance often stems from fear of the unknown. By meeting people where they are and translating technology into outcomes they care about, she reframes transformation as support rather than disruption. In doing so, technology becomes not the driver of change, but its facilitator.

If you architect the system so that those things can speak to each other, then the results and analytics you can bring together are going to have a much more powerful impact.”

Lori Woodcock
Senior Vice President of Talent Technology, McCann Worldgroup

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After more than 70 years in business, Kelly continues to thrive in an industry defined by constant change. In conversation with Avature Founder and CEO Dimitri Boylan, Tim Pröhm explores how digital transformation in HR has become central to sustaining competitive advantage. Their discussion moves beyond tools and trends, focusing instead on mindset, collaboration and the discipline required to turn technology into lasting value.

5 key takeaways from Kelly’s HR innovator on digital transformation

• Digital transformation succeeds when business and IT operate as one, not as disconnected functions.
• Transformation is a journey, not a one-time initiative, requiring realistic timelines and phased value creation.
• Differentiation comes from how technology is used, not from technology itself.
• Flexibility and agility are essential in modern HR systems, as processes can no longer remain static.
• Emerging technologies like Generative AI must be approached responsibly, with a clear focus on real business impact.

Bridging Vision, Technology, and Reality

Pröhm’s perspective is shaped by experience on both sides of the equation: recruiting and technology. That dual lens has made one thing clear—digital transformation stalls when business leaders and IT teams speak different languages. At Kelly, the answer has been to formalize a bridge between the two through roles that combine business understanding with technical fluency. These connectors don’t just translate requirements; they help reimagine operating models, spotting opportunities where technology can replace complexity rather than add to it.

Equally important is patience. Pröhm is candid about the unrealistic expectations that often accompany transformation efforts. Efficiency gains don’t always appear in year one, and forcing everything into a single implementation can delay progress rather than accelerate it. What sustains Kelly’s momentum is a commitment to continuous improvement: adjusting configurations, experimenting with new use cases and staying flexible as customer and market needs evolve. In this framing, technology becomes a living system—one that supports differentiation precisely because it can change.

There is no static process that you hardcode into a system and then run for ten years. These times are over. You need to have flexibility, you need to be agile.”

Tim Pröhm,
Vice President of Digital Transformation, Kelly

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As Wayfair continues to scale at speed, talent technology has become both an enabler and a potential constraint. In conversation with Avature Founder and CEO Dimitri Boylan, Hannah Rebecchi reflects on how the organization has learned to navigate technology decisions thoughtfully—balancing short-term hiring pressures with a long-term vision for sustainable growth. The discussion explores how continuous improvement, design thinking and restraint can be just as powerful as innovation itself.

5 key takeaways from Wayfair’s HR innovator on continuous improvement in TA technology

• Continuous improvement helps organizations avoid “shiny object” technology traps, especially during periods of rapid growth.
• A cohesive TA tech stack must align with business scale and future demand, not just current pain points.
• User-centered design is critical to HR technology decisions, grounding choices in the real needs of recruiters and candidates.
• Buying versus building technology requires long-term thinking, including roadmap viability and ongoing support.
• TA technology teams add the most value by challenging scale assumptions, helping the business plan beyond the next hiring surge.

Designing for the Long Term

Rebecchi’s perspective is shaped by Wayfair’s evolution from heavily homegrown systems to a more deliberate blend of internal and external technology. Early custom-built tools filled gaps when the market couldn’t, but over time, the cost of fragmentation became clear. For Rebecchi, consolidation isn’t about standardization for its own sake; it’s about clarity. When systems multiply, teams spend their energy patching gaps instead of improving experiences.

What stands out in her approach is patience. Rather than jumping to the next promising solution, Rebecchi emphasizes slowing down to understand user pain points, document decisions and test assumptions against future scale. Asking what hiring looks like at 10,000—or 100,000—new hires reframes technology from a fix to a foundation. It’s in this discipline that Wayfair avoids the illusion of silver bullets and instead builds systems that can evolve alongside the business.

You see this shiny new thing and quickly jump to it, thinking that it’s going to solve all your problems. But it’s not a silver bullet in most cases.”

Hannah Rebecchi
Senior Manager of Talent Acquisition Technology, Wayfair

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In conversation with Avature Founder and CEO Dimitri Boylan, Kerstin Wagner shares how Deutsche Bahn approaches talent acquisition across a workforce of more than 300,000 people worldwide. From cultivating curiosity to rethinking learning and employer branding, the discussion explores how large organizations can adopt a startup mindset—without losing coherence or purpose.

5 key takeaways from Deutsche Bahn’s HR innovator

• Innovation in talent acquisition starts with leadership behavior, not mandates or slogans.
• Involving recruiters in shaping strategy unlocks collective intelligence, especially at scale.
• Continuous learning reduces fear during change, enabling teams to adapt as roles evolve.
• Employer branding must be revisited regularly to stay aligned with market realities and organizational truth.
• Technology adoption should serve candidate experience, supporting speed, transparency and engagement.

Training Curiosity at Scale

For Wagner, innovation is not a personality trait, it’s a capability that can be developed. Leading a talent acquisition function of more than 1,000 people, she is acutely aware that curiosity doesn’t flourish by accident. It requires leaders who model it openly, invite ideas before decisions are made and create space for “unrealistic” thinking before constraints are applied. By asking her entire recruiting organization to help define roadmaps and challenge assumptions, Wagner reframes innovation as a shared responsibility rather than a top-down directive.

Learning plays a central role in sustaining that mindset. Deutsche Bahn’s TA academy, with dedicated weekly learning time, reflects a belief that change becomes less threatening when people feel equipped to navigate it. As recruiting roles shift under the influence of new technologies and candidate expectations, learning becomes both a stabilizer and a catalyst. The result is a function that can respond to constant labor market change while staying grounded in purpose, connecting people not just to jobs but to the broader mission of sustainable mobility.

You can’t say, ‘You have to be innovative right away.’ You have to train that.”

Kerstin Wagner
Vice President of Talent Acquisition, Deutsche Bahn

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In conversation with Avature Founder and CEO Dimitri Boylan, Steve Page reflects on what it takes to modernize recruitment and people operations inside one of the world’s most values-driven organizations. Drawing on a career spanning recruiting, HR, and product leadership, Page explores how IKEA is navigating digital transformation without losing its deeply human core. At stake is not just efficiency at scale, but the ability to remain local, inclusive and connected in a rapidly changing talent landscape.

5 key takeaways from IKEA’s HR innovator on global recruiting at scale

• Digital transformation in HR is as much about culture as it is technology, requiring new ways of working alongside new systems.
• Reducing administrative burden unlocks recruiter impact, freeing time for meaningful human connection in talent acquisition strategy.
• The future of recruitment is about engaging digital users, not just candidates, reflecting shifts in attention, behavior and expectations.
• Localization remains central to global strategy, with recruiting and talent practices tailored store-by-store and market-by-market.
• Responsible use of people data enables better decisions and retention, helping organizations spot opportunities before talent walks away.

Balancing Scale with Togetherness

For Page, the defining challenge of IKEA’s transformation is not rolling out technology across dozens of countries, but ensuring those tools strengthen — rather than dilute — the company’s values. As processes become more automated and data-driven, the risk is distance: fewer conversations, fewer shared moments, fewer chances to pass on culture. IKEA’s response has been intentionally balanced. Technology is designed to empower coworkers — to swap shifts, explore internal moves, and shape their own working lives — while leaders remain accountable for listening, explaining and staying present.

That emphasis on togetherness also shapes IKEA’s thinking about the future of work. Recruiting at scale no longer means broadcasting roles into the void; it means meeting people where they already are as confident digital participants. Yet even as the company builds global data hubs and consolidates technology, Page is clear-eyed about the responsibility that comes with insight. Data, used well, becomes a way to understand patterns, predict needs and invest in people before disengagement sets in. Used poorly, it risks eroding trust. The difference lies in intent — and in staying anchored to the human story behind every data point.

It’s not just a technology rollout. It’s actually a change in ways of working and a shift in global mentality. It’s a cultural change that we’re going through in every country.”

Steve Page
Global VP of Product Management, IKEA

Listen to the full episode to hear Steve Page in conversation with Dimitri Boylan on how IKEA is reimagining recruitment, data and culture on a global scale.